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STUC's bizarre call for Celtic protest

The Write Factor: The call for Celtic fans to support the Palestinians is a clumsy attempt to hijack the match, says David Coyle.

David Coyle

By David Coyle

01 December 2009 13:07 GMT

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STUC's bizarre call for Celtic protest

The STUC call for Celtic fans to have a Palestinian flag protest when Israeli side Hapoel Tel Aviv visit Glasgow tomorrow night took me by surprise. Not that the STUC would call for solidarity with the Palestinian people – I’m a trade union member and know about the long standing links between the Scottish Labour movement and the Palestinian cause.

I just got a feeling that, well, sometimes it’s easy to get people to wave flags and then stand back and watch the fall-out. Let’s face it, we all know about how certain flags can be a red rag to football fans, sometimes even the football authorities in this country, and let’s face it, there are a few songs that get sung from the stands that quite frankly are reprehensible and racist.

But I’m not sure that the STUC, or any other public bodies, got much further than a limp condemnation of these matters. So why pick on the visit of Hapoel to Celtic Park this week for a protest call?

Hapoel have a fairly interesting history. They began in the 1920s and were associated with Histradut, the Israeli trade union. The word “hapoel” itself is Hebrew for worker, and they were seen as a communist club, and yes, they do play in red shirts.

Fans of Hapoel see themselves as a special kind of fan – political, socially-aware people who rail against corruption in Israeli society. While most of the banners at games proclaim undying loyalty to their team, they like having a go at rivals Beitar Jerusalem, a “fascist, racist” club in the eyes of Hapoel fans.

My favourite banner though was their “Say No to Racism” banner – well actually they had two. One written in Hebrew, and one in Arabic.

Maybe I’m being glib, but I get the feeling that Hapoel fans, the people who would bleed for their club, aren’t the kind of people who are going to be full-square behind the continuing annexation of Palestinian land. Dare I say it, some of them may actually be opposed to the way that Palestinians are treated in Israel. So why does the STUC think that a protest at tomorrow’s game is a good idea?

Got to say, I don’t remember the STUC calling for Rangers fans to fly Palestinian flags when Maccabi Haifa visited Glasgow a few years ago. And it’s not as if the political situation in Israel was a whole lot better for Palestinians then. Admittedly, there was a lone protester at that match – but he wasn’t a Rangers fan and I don’t think the STUC paid for his lawyer.

Do the STUC think Celtic fans are stupid? “C’mon Bhoys, show some solidarity with the oppressed Palestinians... youse are always greeting about oppression, they’re your kind of people... here’s a flag, and it’s got green and white in it...”

Football can bring people together, and politics can divide football fans, even those who support the same team, but there is nothing worse than politics hijacking other people’s events without being upfront about it.

If there is a Palestinian flag protest tomorrow night in the East End of the Glasgow, then any outrage afterwards – and there would be plenty  – would be directed at Celtic fans, not the STUC who called for it.

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David Coyle is a finalist in stv.tv's The Write Factor competition. The views expressed are not necessarily those of STV plc. If you would like to read more from this writer, use our comment system below.

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    1. 01 Dec 2009 15:23Paul67 said

    Absolutely bizarre. Not without crowd control consequences for Celtic, either. No consequences for the STUC, or the Middle East.

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    2. 01 Dec 2009 15:28stephen67 said

    Not a Celtic issue...Nothing to be gained by Celtic by allowing this, Where has the STUC been when people have been loosing jobs all over the country, I will be writing to my local TU rep to complain about this.

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    3. 01 Dec 2009 15:50Mort said

    Well said David. It is my view that all political acts should be kept out of football grounds. People go to a football match to watch a game of football, not to partake in some misguided protest.

    Mort

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    4. 01 Dec 2009 16:09cadizzy said

    David, as you say, there was no clarion call previously when Rangers played Maccabi Haifi so a paranoid Celtic supporter (paranoid tim?...as if!)might be tempted to suspect an attempt by the STUC at cynical manipulation of his fellow fans.

    An alternative explanation (and not necessarily from an alternative universe)could be the STUC's realisation that Palestinian flags, as well as other flags representing oppressed peoples, are more frequently seen at Celtic Park than at Ibrox, where the tradition in relation to flags is, shall we say, more traditional.

    Maybe the STUC feel that Celtic fans have a greater propensity for siding with the poor, needy and oppressed of the world than Rangers supporters, and that an exhortation to the Ibrox faithful on that earlier occasion would fall on stony ground. Then again, in the corresponding away fixture, through actions, gestures and hand signals, the Rangers fans did not paint themselves as unduly pro Israeli so, STUC, a missed opportunity there perhaps.

    The chance has been lost forever, unfortunately, but a dignified demonstration by the Ibrox crowd that night in favour of the Palestinians could well have meant that the tragic events of last December would have been averted...as would swine flu, the credit crunch and Susan Boyle falling at the last hurdle on Britain's Got Talent.

    It is ironic that a body such as the STUC seriously underestimated the power of ra peepil.

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    5. 01 Dec 2009 17:01Dee Ess said

    I agree entirely. Since when have the STUC got involved in football matches? As the author mentions, I don't recall the STUC urging the rangers support to do likewise a few seasons back.

    It may well be that the Celtic support is seens as being more politically motivated/minded than their Ibrox counterparts, but in this case any political fallout/Uefa consequences would have been for Celtic, not for the STUC.

    Once more some one/organistaion is looking to force their political agenda onto a football match.

    Pathetic and indeed in IMHO, in this particular case misguided.

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    6. 01 Dec 2009 17:27twists n turns said

    What possible good can become of this action, if indeed Celtic fans heed the call of the STUC?

    Palestine gain = zero.

    Celtic FC gain = zero.

    Never met anyone who wished for a zero-zero end game.

    I hope any fans who wish to show their support for the Palestinians save their support for a more appropriate forum.

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    7. 01 Dec 2009 17:38EN said

    Good to see a fair, balanced and well researched artical on football and politics.

    Will it ever catch on?

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    8. 01 Dec 2009 17:44smith86 said

    celtic bosses say they're wanting fans to ignore the protest at celtic park. Considering the celtic chairman john reid is considered by many to be a war criminal. These guys ignored public opinion about going to war in iraq. If politics apparently has no place in sport why were celtic players forced to wear a poppy. Whereas celtic supporters are not being forced to participate in the STUC's protest. When people in palestine are living in misery on one side of the wall/electric fence and the israeli people on the other side are living in beautiful homes with swimming people is this something people should ignore or show solidarity with the people living in misery like the oppressed jews in evil hitler's warsaw ghettoes.

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    9. 01 Dec 2009 17:46smith86 said

    free palestine!!!!!!!!!

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    10. 01 Dec 2009 17:52RRC said

    Well Said, David.

    I don't like this idea at all. Let STUC protest on their own ground.

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    11. 01 Dec 2009 21:56modernityscotland said

    David

    I've always found the STUC to be a bit wierd. They've always been rent a quote on various "causes", usually the further away from Scotland the more miltant they become, but in terms of their core business; representing ordinary hard working men and women, their profile in non-existent.

    For example, I quote you equal pay and single status agreements, where the STUC has done next to nothing for years to improve the pay of low paid female employees, yet will have banners and motions on the rights of women in developing nations etc.

    This hi-jacking of Celtic stunt is tokenism, pure and simple and is a sad reflection of the organisation's remoteness from the priorities of normal Scots. If anyone in the STUC was a football fan with any connection with reality they'd have kicked this nonsense into Row Z.

    That's not to say that the STUC shouldn't resist exploitation and oppression wherever it arises but people would have more time for the organisation if it had a real profile in the day to day life of the country. Just who is the Sec Gen of the STUC these days?

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    12. 01 Dec 2009 22:19SFTB said

    smith86

    To be fair many Celtic fans are also saying this is not the time and place to be marking a demonstration against Israel. This is not just a case of the Board being opposed to fans' wishes.

    Not being in favour of a demonstration on Wednesday is a million miles away from feeling that Politics has no place in Sport. Very few will try to defend that position.

    So whether or not the Board are for or agin' it, I hope you will choose to listen to the views of the many fans who are both pro- Palestine but anti- an organised demo on Wednesday.

    The STUC have mistaken the mood off the Celtic support on this one. If a few fans carry Palestine flags I would not strive to stop them but many people who are consistently pro-Palestine will not be bearing Palestine flags on Wednesday.

    Hapoel do not deserve that treatment. Celtic do not deserve that treatment and your fellow Celtic fans do not deserve that treatment.

    I hope this mistaken show of support proves to be a damp squib.

    There will be plenty more opportunities and more appropriate ones where the Palestine cause will need our support.

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    13. 02 Dec 2009 09:30weeminger said

    David

    Good article, that pretty much summarises the view of the vast majority of Celtic fans I know.

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    14. 02 Dec 2009 09:56Greenyin said

    well thought out and enjoyable article,whilst no fan of the Israeli state I don not see why it should be left to Celtic fans to act as protest cannon fodder

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    15. 02 Dec 2009 10:46The Harland St Globetrotter said

    A refreshingly sensible article, well argued and presented. Can I hope that STV will be questioning the STUC as to why they have adopted such a bizarre tactic? Can I hope that someone at STV has the integrity to ask the STUC why in all the years of "Loud and Proud" bigotry from within the walls of Ibrox they never sought to highlight our homegrown racism against those of Irish descent and the sectarianism against those of the Catholic faith?

    Many questions still to be answered and well worthy of a follow-up piece. Thanks.

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    16. 02 Dec 2009 12:41The Truth said

    This kind of behaviour could only happen with Celtic 'football' club.

    Celtic fans supporting yet more 'former' terrorists, this time the PLO. Once again polluting Scottish society with this trash.

    Scotland doesnt need or want this kind of nonsense.

    Its high time the Scottish Parliament took a serious look at this 'football.' club.

    The STUC are a complete disgrace. They have lost the respect of a LOT of people with this circus. Clowns.

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    17. 02 Dec 2009 14:14MWD said

    Graeme Smith (could he be a Rangers season book holder by any chance) in my opinion is using my 'football' club (see what I did there The Truth-less Twit? - na didn't think you would get it) is using Celtic 'football' (The Truth - i did it again) club as a pawn in his battles with the unions in Israel knowing full well that Hapoel back the Israeli leftist union which the STUC fell out with earlier this year. At the same time. in my opinion, he is trying to cause a headache for my 'football' (awe naw a did it again The Truth-less Twit) club with the Euro beaks in Geneva. This is an action requested through his blue tinted specks looking down his big blue nose hoping for a bit of grief being aimed at my 'football' (stop it me - The Truth-less twit will never get it) club from here and abroad.

    If you feel the need to protest, due to your conscience and your convictions, tonight then by all means protest. But if you are only going to protest due to this ludicrous request from a Blue Nose neanderthal then please stay at home and count your brain cells.

    1. To fight the battles that he is too gutless to fight himself via normal means because he had a wee fallout with Israel's leftist union.

    2. To

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    18. 02 Dec 2009 14:41Wolfhound said

    Nice to get someone to fight your battles for you.Where does the STUC stand on racism in Scotland?Where is it's stance on North Korea,Iran,Zimbabwe and a lot more? Oh.I forgot.None of their football teams are playing at Celtic Park.The STUC would be better off looking closer to home.They,if they had been so minded,could have called for a Holocaust demo from Rangers supporters at Hamburg.Now,that WOULD have been daring and controversial.I suggest the STUC give out Lloyd's Bank flags at the next Rangers home match.That'll larn 'em.

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    19. 02 Dec 2009 14:45Wolfhound said

    Nice to get someone to fight your battles for you.Where does the STUC stand on racism in Scotland?Where is it's stance on North Korea,Iran,Zimbabwe and a lot more? Oh.I forgot.None of their football teams are playing at Celtic Park.The STUC would be better off looking closer to home.They,if they had been so minded,could have called for a Holocaust demo from Rangers supporters at Hamburg.Now,that WOULD have been daring and controversial.I suggest the STUC give out Lloyd's Bank flags at the next Rangers home match.That'll larn 'em.

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    20. 02 Dec 2009 14:45Wolfhound said

    Nice to get someone to fight your battles for you.Where does the STUC stand on racism in Scotland?Where is it's stance on North Korea,Iran,Zimbabwe and a lot more? Oh.I forgot.None of their football teams are playing at Celtic Park.The STUC would be better off looking closer to home.They,if they had been so minded,could have called for a Holocaust demo from Rangers supporters at Hamburg.Now,that WOULD have been daring and controversial.I suggest the STUC give out Lloyd's Bank flags at the next Rangers home match.That'll larn 'em.

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    21. 02 Dec 2009 14:52Mort said

    The Truth

    “This kind of behaviour could only happen with Celtic 'football' club.”

    How can you hold Celtic responsible for the actions of a trade union? Celtic have come out and asked supporters not to take part in any protest and I and many supporters agree with this. There will be some supporters who will bring Palestinian flags with them to the game. Many would have done so regardless of what STUC had to say.

    “Celtic fans supporting yet more 'former' terrorists, this time the PLO. Once again polluting Scottish society with this trash.”

    How can you equate supporters flying flags with supporting terrorists. Many people fly Palestinian flags and do so in an act of solidarity with the people, not the PLO or any other organisation you care to mention.

    “Its high time the Scottish Parliament took a serious look at this 'football.' club.”

    In regards to what?

    This is a SPUC issue. They are ones who want to highlight the Palestinian cause, Celtic as a football club are only interested in playing football.

    I think you just want to be offended and I have no doubt you’ll be tuning into the game tonight probably counting the number of flags just so you can be offended.

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    22. 02 Dec 2009 14:53Boltonbhoy said

    Ach, there's always one who will lower the tone isn't there! Why don't you, poster 16, The Truth(now there's a laugh!), go back to The Scotsman blogs that you normally pollute.

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    23. 02 Dec 2009 15:02cadizzy said

    The Truth (now, I'm guessing that's not your real name)

    "Celtic fans supporting yet more 'former' terrorists, this time the PLO. Once again polluting Scottish society with this trash."

    First. This is not a Celtic initiative;it is the initiative of the STUC, an organisation that has no affiliation whatsoever with Celtic....but you knew that,didn't you? Otherwise, you would not be calling the STUC "clowns" and "a complete disgrace" Incidentally, Celtic has made it clear that this is an extremely unwelcome development.You did not mention that point so in case you didn't know.....

    Second. The demonstration is to highlight the plight of the people living in Palestine;it is not in support of the PLO or any other organisation.

    Even if Celtic fans buy into the con on offer, there is nothing illegal in demonstrating accordingly and therefore it,almost by definition, falls well outside of your definition of "trash". On the other hand,the singing of racist songs by Rangers fans against anyone Irish or of Irish descent is illegal and would be far more deserving of your ire.

    Does that not constitute a pollution of Scotland in your mind? If not, why not? Don't tell me it's because it's a catchy tune.

    Oh, this is not an attack on Rangers "football" club. You are my sole focus.

    (Dare I say it)...Hail hail

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    24. 02 Dec 2009 15:19GreenOakTree said

    David..I agree with all aspects of your article

    Bottom line here is Glasgow Celtic is a football club that should be fighting against racist and sectarian chants that are heard from Ibrox every other week, not to mention their deplorable away support...

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    25. 02 Dec 2009 15:46Blindlemon said

    I'm ambivalent about this.

    On the one hand, I mistrust State expansionism, militarism and agression, all accusatons which might be laid at the door of Zionists.

    I also , on a basic level, have a degree of human sympathy for disposessed people, from Gaza, Lebanon and the West Bank and can see a thread which might link the cause of an independent Palestinian State and Catholics from the six county statelet who wish to see a united Ireland.

    I also, as a life long Labour supporter, have respect for the role played by the STUC in fighting for the rights of working people in Scotland .

    The thing is, Celtic supporters are super sensitive these days, especially after Falkirk last month. We feel that certain sections of the media need little prompting to rush to condemn us ( it was ever thus).

    As a consequence of this, any attempt, especially by an outside body, to brand or politicize us as a support, will be viewed with suspicion. Damned if we do and damned if we don't.

    We're being forced into an insular attitude, I fear, much more suited to our plucky wee cash strapped bretheren from South of the river.

    What I do know, for certain, is that our support and our club have an international reputation, officially endorsed by FIFA, for friendliness and good behaviour.

    I also know that Hapoel,like Celtic, have traditionally drawn their support from the more liberal and left leaning areas of Israeli society. Their club badge has a hammer and sickle I notice, which John Reid might remember from his pre abolition of clause 4 Labour Membership Card.

    There are more factors linikng the two clubs than divide us.

    I'm for being friendly and polite.

    Let's leave the deliberate insulting of a visiting team's culture to the types of people who'd urinate over a war memorial .

    The Teddy Bears aren't welcome back in Barca anytime soon I hear.

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    26. 02 Dec 2009 15:46Dee Ess said

    The "Truth"???

    har-di-har-har!

    You wouldn't know the truth if it came up, punched you in the mouth and tatooed itself on your forehead!

    Is the kind of behaviour the rest of Europe and indeed the world saw in Bucharest, Tel-Aviv and Manchester et al more acceptable to Scotland?

    Or does Scottish Society want the kind of nonsense that is espoused almost every Friday and Saturday in the West Of Scotland during "The Marching Season", that sees normal law-abiding citizens not allowed to cross the road at certain times, afraid to walk down the street or be spat on and verbally abused for having the temerity to be wearing green coloured clothing or even drive where and when they would like to....on "The Queen's Highway"???

    As to the Scottish parliament having "a serious look at this Football Club"

    Is that due to the all-inclusive, open doors-to-all policy that the Club has espoused?

    Is it due to the Charity Fund that it set-up and sees many well-deserving causes being financially aided?

    Is it due to the many honours and plaudits that the club and it's support have won both in the UK, Europe and beyond, that reflect well on "the best small country in the world"??

    Is it due to the fact that the Club opened it's doors to the Asian Football community to give them the use of Celtic Park for their UK cup competition?

    Etc, etc, etc

    You know something, you are correct - The Scottish Parliament should have a serious look at this "football" club....... and use some of its policies as a template for the rest of Scottish football!

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    27. 02 Dec 2009 17:42The Truth said

    Interesting although predictable replies.

    Dee-Ess resorts to traditional Celtic fan deflection tactics. Poor show indeed. It doesnt make the problem go away! You are an irrelevance in this matter.

    But I have to laugh at posters Mort and cadizzy.

    They stated:

    'How can you hold Celtic responsible for the actions of a trade union?'

    'This is not a Celtic initiative;it is the initiative of the STUC'

    Right there, you have their ready-made 'excuse' for any demonstration that might happen.

    There is something that both of these characters forget to mention.

    They imply that the STUC are the sole reason that any demonstration might happen. WRONG.

    A demonstration was thought of by some of the numpties who follow Celtic as soon as they saw the name Hapoel come out of the hat when the draw was made.

    It was first mentioned on fans' messageboards that very night and has continued to be a hot topic of discussion. What a glorious opportunity to once again shout and bawl their warped political views in front of what will be a worldwide tv audience!! This cannot be missed!

    So, should any demonstartion happen, blaming the STUC is simply a non-starter.

    There is no doubt that some Celtic fans have a serious problem with identity, but to hop on the Middle-East political bus with flag and banner-waving is laughable on the one hand, but deadly serious on the other.

    I note that they left their political feelings at home when they went to Israel ..

    After the embarrassment of Remembrance Sunday, which was witnessed worldwide and where Celtic were exposed, I await to see what occurs at this game.

    I hope that Scotland's name is not once again dragged through the mud.

    The numpties should have a wee think about that.

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    28. 02 Dec 2009 19:24SFTB said

    The Truth

    Add me to the list of those supporting former "terrorists". Add the Palestinians to Spartacus, William Wallace, Michael Collins, Nelson Mandela and Count Von Stauffenberg.

    I'll assume from the posters for the BNP still hanging on the lamposts around Ibrox that you are happy to line-up with the states and entities they "terrorised."

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    29. 02 Dec 2009 20:09v-man said

    I’m appalled at this attempt to stage manage events at Celtic Park for the benefit of external organisations who are not in any way representing Celtic FC’s interests.

    It’s a real attempt to cause disharmony within the support, and to create a rift between the management and the supporters, I hope it totally fails. I don’t understand why our board aren’t being more bullish in demanding that the STUC rescind their call for a flag demonstration.

    A well written and informed article, its heartening to know that there are some media people out there who are willing to tell it as it is.

    V

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    30. 03 Dec 2009 13:25JungleJim said

    I thought I would wait until after the event, which I atended, before commenting.

    First of all, the "flags" were actually glossy paper versions about 60cm X 30cm.

    Secondly, many Celtic supporters took the "flags" but discarded them before going into the ground. I interpreted this as a gesture of solidarity with the Palestinian people but a rejection of the STUC`s attempt to hijack the Celtic Support for their own ends.

    The Hapoel fans were well received by the home support and a banner which dwarfed the two or three real Palestinian flags welcomed their support to Celtic Park.

    So, well done David Coyle in writing this article and well done the Celtic Supporters who have sent the STUC homewards to think again.

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    31. 03 Dec 2009 13:28Turratim said

    The Truth -

    "I hope that Scotland's name is not once again dragged through the mud"

    Ah, I get it now, you mean like in Manchester . . . . . . .

    TT

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    32. 03 Dec 2009 16:09Jansismusie said

    Isn't it peculiar the way the loony left running the STUC, shout and scream in support of allegedly innocent Palestinians but where are they when the truly innocent members of the various Trade Unions, lose their jobs and their homes. I didn't see the STUC protesting on the streets about the greedy Bankers who misused and lost the countries money in speculation scams.

    Its time the STUC got back in touch with the people they are supposed to be representing and stopped using our weekly subs in worthless protests and do what they are paid to do fight the greedy boss's who are destroing lives in the UK.

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    33. 04 Dec 2009 09:14smith86 said

    i have supported the stuc like many celtic fans who voiced their concerns about what has happened in palestine, it was a great show at celtic park with the flying of the palestinian flags.

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    34. 04 Dec 2009 09:21smith86 said

    extract taken from

    http://www.scottishpsc.org.uk/...mid=200277

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    35. 04 Dec 2009 12:53Lullabies and Battlecries said

    David Coyle: The truth,the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Unusual from a Scottish journalist. Might catch on.

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    36. 05 Dec 2009 18:29Mattyboy said

    Some interesting comments here. I am all for keeping politics out of football, but have been astonished by the level of hypocrisy over the last week.

    The argument about political songs or sectarian chants at football matches rumbles on. Scotland Fans can raise the roof of Hampden singing about Scotsmen who fought the English to rid the country of English rule . 'Sent him homeward tae think again' 'We can still RISE now '. All perfectly acceptable and approved by the SFA. This is a political song and has absolutley nothing to do with football, and not even our official National Anthem.

    In direct contrast,if Celtic fans sing any song about Irishmen fighting to get the English ( yes the same English ) out of Ireland or refer to the 'RISING' in song they are branded bigots, told that football is no place for politics and banned from Parkhead. Another example of Anti Irish Racism that prevents peole from the Irish community from connecting to their culture through song.

    Food for thought, i hope .

    You can't have it both ways.

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    37. 06 Dec 2009 21:09A Walk Across The Rooftops said

    E MAILED THE STUC REGARDING THIS..STILL WAITING FOR A RESPONSE..FUNNY THAT

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    38. 08 Dec 2009 19:03Neutron said

    Came late to this story. I agree with the good sense of David. However, good to see so much debate on the issue

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